Dr. Steven Davis Takes on NYC Cosmetic Surgery Meeting (Full Episode)

Dr. Steven Davis takes on New York City for a cosmetic surgery meeting, and you don’t want to miss out on the fun! Start off with Dr. Davis in a beautiful Manhatten hotel as he briefly covers the topics of this intriguing meeting full of industry-leading techniques & professionals. As the holidays arrive, plastic surgeons are hard at work discussing new filler materials to make sure everyone feels their best during the upcoming season.

Next, tune in to a fascinating discussion with famous fellowship-trained dermatologist Dr. Joel Cohen. Dr. Cohen has worked with the Carruthers, who originally described the use of Botox in the 1980s. He also discusses how to balance maintaining a practice while staying involved in the latest plastic surgery research.

Dr. Davis goes on to discuss the Fern technique with renowned Netherland’s aesthetic physician, Dr. Thomas van Eijk. Dr. Thomas van Eijk invented this technique in 2004, which uses hydraulic acid to strengthen the skin while targeting specific areas of the face.

Keep up with all of Dr. Steven Davis’s adventures at this NYC cosmetic surgery meeting below by watching the latest video on the Davis CPS YouTube channel. Enjoy!

[Transcript]

Intro

• So I’m here in New York City for a cosmetic surgery meeting. And one of the things that we’re really gonna be focusing on this time of year is trying to come up with new filler materials and new things that we can do to make you look as youthful and as perfect for the holiday season as possible.

• And you can see around me, this gorgeous hotel also is doing that same kind of a thing. So, stay tuned because we have a lot of interesting things that we’re gonna be talking about at this special meeting.

Dr. Davis interviews Dr. Joel Cohen

• Hi, everybody. I’m here with Dr. Joel Cohen, a very, very famous board-certified, a fellowship trained dermatologist. But I’m in Manhattan, and we gotta talk a little bit real quickly, ’cause he’s going up on stage in a minute. Plastic Surgery Revolution. Couple quick questions. I know you did your training with the Carruthers’ who are like the people that started this whole Botox thing. Give me a couple of quick things that you can tell me that helped you with or that you learned from them or anything like that.

• So, Alastair and Jean Carruthers are really the pioneers of using botulinum toxins and they described the first cosmetic use of Botox really back in the late 1980s. So Jean is an oculoplastic surgeon and Alastair is a dermatologist. And she actually noticed that when she injected patients for blepharospasm or strabismus or different things in the periocular area, that they actually had softening of the muscle here and here. And that led to what we do commonly today all the time.

• So, you’re so involved in not only just doing clinical studies and things like that and doing also practice. How do you blend all these things together? Because that’s something I always talk to you about because I think you did do a lot of fellowship training and lasers and in Mohs surgery. So, how do you do all that and still have time to do the papers and the research and things like that?

• Well, first of all, I was a history major and I love really putting the story together. So, I’m an avid reader and I’ve always liked to write. And when it comes time for family occasions and things like that, where you give a speech, that’s one of those things. My kids had bar mitzvah, bat mitzvah and you write a great speech. And I think when you are able to tell a story, even in the introductory paragraphs of something like, Hey, you know, this was discovered by, and we’re going to talk about this and we’re gonna review this. Or this is a novel concept, and this is where it came from, those types of things. So I think every article is a story and it really allows us to express ourselves, design a study, and then I’m super type A, so I’m type A positive, which is my blood type. And I actually, when I dictate to my transcriptionist, I actually put the commas and the periods and the exclamation points and the capitals and the paragraphs. And I like to do that. It gives me a sense of completion when I’m writing a chapter or writing a paper.

• Yeah, I love that, last question. What do you see moving to 2022? ‘Cause you’re like at the forefront of all these things happening, you got your finger on the pulse of everything in aesthetic surgeries and everything.

• Well, I think as we move forward into 2022, I think I learned from my colleagues and my friends and my mentors with Dr. Steve Davis, world famous plastic surgeon right now. And our videographer is Tom van Eijk and from the Netherlands, who’s discovered ferning and written about that. And we’re just hanging out at a meeting. We all come from different backgrounds, different places, and we’re all friends because of opportunities like this. And this allows us to learn together, to learn from each other and to see what other people are doing. And I think for me, that’s incredibly exciting. And I will say that I had a light bulb that went off recently for me in terms of some of the things that we do because, honestly I do sit ups every once in a while. And then, I know about Emsculpt and all this. With Emsculpt Neo, I was intrigued because David Kent just did an article about reducing visceral fat. And honestly, I’m optimistic that we’re at this transition point between, we know that some of the aesthetics that we do make people feel better about themselves. And when you’re feel better about themselves, you may have more self-confidence you may project yourself differently. We know that working out, similarly, does these types of things. And I think we’re seeing the ability for some of the aesthetic things that we might do to actually transcend to the medical world. And that was one of those things that the light bulb went out for me.

• Thank you, everybody you’ve been listening to the Plastic Surgery Revolution, and we’ll be back talking to you next week. Thank you.

Dr. Davis interviews Dr. Thomas van Eijk

• Welcome everyone to The Plastic Surgery Revolution. I’m your host, Dr. Steven Davis, and I actually have someone here who is an aesthetic physician, from the Netherlands, from Amsterdam. It’s Thomas van Eijk.
• Hi
• And here he is. He is very, very well known for a technique that he came up with back in 2004, or five?
• Four.
• Four.
• Yeah.
• Long, long time ago.
• It’s a long time ago, but he still looks unbelievable. He does look a lot like David Spade. Do people tell you that? Do you know who David Spade is?
• No.
• He’s a comedian, but you look at lot like him.
• I’ll look him up.
• You have really good hair. I wanted to ask you, if you would explain to people what the Fern technique is and how you came up with it, and it’s like a lot of people that may be like, you know, laid people, really not in the medical community. What would you say that is?
• Well, the essence is that if you inject hyaluronic acid, which is like the most common filler.
• Right.
• You can do it in several layers of the skin, or under the skin.
• Right.
• Most people tend to inject under the skin to fill up the face, which is fine if you need volume, but sometimes you find that a wrinkle or a fold doesn’t require volume to be corrected, but it requires strength.
• Strength of the skin.
• Yes. If you inject that same hyaluronic acid, not under the skin, but in the skin where the leather is, where the collagen is, then you strengthen without giving volume. So you can actually choose when you have the filler in your syringe, whether you wanna give volume, or strength.
• I understand.
• And if you find a fold like this one, not being there because there’s a lack of volume underneath, but because there is a lack of strength at the skin, ’cause of the disruption of the collagen.
• Right.
• Like damage. Then, adding strength makes more sense than adding volume.
• Absolutely understood. So when you’re coming up with the idea of a Fern technique, you’re seeing, if you’re coming at it together, you’re building strength where that wrinkle would merge.
• If the wrinkle is in the middle, and then if you inject from one side, and you inject from the other side, and you intertwine those injections.
• Right.
• Because it’s very strong in the middle. So this is where the damage is at its peak. It’s where your correction is at it’s peak. The alternating effect, that resembles the leaves of a fern.
• The leaves of the fern.
• Basically.
• I like that. Have you found that the hyaluronic acid is like a semi-permanent type of a filler, because it is actually stimulating the patient’s collagen production at the same time?
• Right, right. Whenever you put hyaluronic acid in the dermis, the dermis will respond by producing more collagen.
• Exactly.
• Which is a stiffening.
• Yeah.
• Element.
• Right.
• So you can imagine that if you add strength on the skin, in a pattern, reacting to the weakness you have found. Then the skin will respond by producing more collagen in that same pattern.
• Absolutely.
• You’re kind of rebuilding actual natural collagen.
• Now in the Netherlands, I’m sure you have a lot of other kinds of fillers that we have in the United States that are not maybe FDA approved. But have you found things like Sculptra or other things that you use in conjunction? Or you’re strictly-
• I use Sculptra, I use Sculptra. Because, well, Sculptra needs to be injected deeper.
• Yes.
• Than hyaluronic acid. And it gives an overall global thickening, and strengthening, and improvement of the skin.
• Right.
• Which is cool. But sometimes you have very distinct damages. Lines, or scars, acne scars for instance, that you don’t need a global, cloudy, strengthening. You need a very distinct correction of what nature has done damaging collagen.
• And I think your presentation that you just gave was phenomenal, because you did go through the stages of when you start to develop these secondary and older type of things that happen to your skin as you age. It’s like a hole, as you were calling it, like a chaos that’s happening.
• Yeah.
• For everything.
• Yeah.
• And I thought that was really, really smart, because it is, you called it, not just chaos-
• Entropy.
• Entropy. Just to make it posh.
• I love it, I love it. Everyone, you’ve been listening to a very, very famous guy named Dr. Thomas Eijk, and you’re listening to The Plastic Surgery Revolution. I’ll be speaking with you again next week. Bye bye for now.

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